User talk:Wonderist

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Feel free to leave a message here. --Wonderist 19:15, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

We're going to need pages for every atheist org. See what I did with American Atheists? Feel free to pitch in. Can you confirm as long as we attribute the work to wiki, we can start with their work? I want to use the base of the wiki article with attribution and then allow the atheist community to expand on it. If that's the case then we need to bring all the groups over. So the page you started for Rational Response Squad could have the wiki from wikipedia brought over here. And the same for the other orgs. XC is working on installed the parts that allow us to cut and paste the code straight from wiki with some minor touchups. --Brian 04:41, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

I'm interested in stubs for atheist groups (like the top 20 non profits), so people can start filling them out. Is there a way to link to all the stubs you made? --Brian 01:32, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Collapsible lists

Regarding your FAQ entry, I just added the common code to make this possible (clear your browser's cache if you see the list items without having to click show):

--Mrxc 03:23, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Awesome! But the 'show' link appears in extreme right justification, as opposed to right next to the list title. I was hoping to use collapsible lists to condense the FAQ pages, so that you'd only see a big list of questions, but you could click on each one to expand it to see the answer.

The way it works now, I would never have thought it was an expanding list except that you wrote to click 'show'. I thought, "'Show'? Where's that? .... Oh, fuck, it's way over there!" Any way to 'fix' that? Or perhaps to have a special one just for FAQ questions that justifies the 'show' to follow immediately after the question mark? Or better, get the question itself to be clickable and expandable? ?! Wonderist 03:35, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

:-) Well, its current behavior probably has to do with how it commonly used. Instead of being used in a page, it is used in an Infobox, which is fairly skinny, so seeing the "show" would be easy there. I am not sure how to implement what you describe yet, but what you describe is currently how the "Mobile view" currently works with major section titles. But to get to it, you have to be using a web browser that indicates that it is a mobile device or click the "Mobile view" in the footer. --Mrxc 03:42, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

I'm adding this here because you are guaranteed to get notified if I respond on your talk page, but not on mine unless you have a watch on it.

I bet either some other code/template/whatever exists to do the non-right-justification, or else it is probably an easy-ish tweak on whatever the thing is that you used to do the current list. By the way, I don't know much about how to use MediaWiki templates or whatever it is you used. Would be good to get at least a basic help page on how to use them. (MediaWiki has help pages you can import, but I would just as soon keep ours simple and focused for the time being.)

Also, check out how I tweaked my signature to add a link to my talk page, so that it will be easier for you to reply. Here's what I used in my prefs: "‽ [[User:Wonderist|Wonderist]] ([[User_talk:Wonderist|talk]])" with "Treat signature as wikitext (without an automatic link)" checked/selected. If you add something similar to yours, it might streamline our messaging to each other. ‽ Wonderist (talk) 04:00, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the signature advice. Right now, "‽" shows up as a "?" looking like thing. I will use dash-dash for now.

I am moving the reply here to keep the conversation in one place. I do not have a watch, but at the moment, there are several "Recent Changes junkies" with myself included, so watches are not needed for me at the moment.

Since we are including Wikipedia Infoboxes here (and more), we already have to export their templates and import them here, so we cannot create templates with names that exist at Wikipedia. They have a lot of templates already, and they are very well documented. It would be difficult to re-implement their Infoboxes here with our own templates. When we have finished re-implementing, it would probably be almost as complicated as theirs. Hopefully less complicated, but not that less complicated to make it worthwhile.

Even the simple templates can be confusing to most people. So I would rather not have to build, maintain, and document my own because only a few people would be able to help. Creating our own simplified templates would be simpler for people who understand templates, but for those few, it is also possible to understand how to use Wikipedia's templates.

I am not against creating our own simple templates, but nothing as complicated as the Infoboxes. The collapsible list might be just a simple template that surrounds the text with the Nav* divs.

Here is some documentation that I found related to your question:

--Mrxc (Talk) 05:34, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

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